Clean fonts, possibly take over fonts and colors from (new) helmholtz.de, where appropriate

• can this already be done for MVP? No.

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• Decide which font to use for headlines.
• Decide which font to use for normal text.
• Clean up so-far local solutions for replacing herman font with a global decision and solution.

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Schrift Halva (nicht frei verfügbar) => Man kann sich auf der Seite des Schriftentwicklers die Schrift herunterladen (59,- ) Rabatte Code Helmholzt 25. Klare Flächen, die aneinander gesetzt werden. => Guidline

• Martin T can help to re-use css (fragments) for our page. Technically this should be doable + license-wise he'll check with the designer (but expects no problems)

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Current status:

• Site headers replaced with Corporate S, for the time being.
• In-page headlines still remain in herman font.

• In PR VC it was decided to use an open source sans alternative for all text elements. Yet to be decided which one.
• In the mid-term, Herman font is only to be used for the logos.

@erxleb87 you said that you found potential OS alternatives for a Halva-like font. Could you please provide them?

I remember that I discussed this already with @frust45 and we found that Roboto was a pretty good match. It is also licensed as Apache v2. which should be fine for our use case.

Another option we considered was the Noto Sans - family for its wide support of various languages and writing systems, glyphs and characters. It could really help to unify the look of the webpage and resolve the dependency on fontawesome (symbols, more symbols, math symbols )

It is licensed under the Open Font License.

having a try with NotoSans !447 (merged)

Roboto !452 (closed)

NotoSansDisplay !455 (closed)

mentioned in merge request !447 (merged)

mentioned in merge request !452 (closed)

@erxleb87 @englae39 @lisa.klaffki do we have the Halvar font available for some tests?

don't know

Okay, so let's have a little poll. Thumbs up/down please.

@frust45 @SpickerHZB @erxleb87 @englae39 @lisa.klaffki @konrad

Who is in favor of Noto Sans?

Who is in favor of Roboto?

Who would like to remain with Corporate Sans, just without the Hermann headlines?

Nothing of these, try further!

Ich finde die Roboto in der großen Überschrift schöner, aber auf den Buttons sehr eng, da überlege ich, ob das schlecht lesbar ist, etwa mit beeinträchtigten Sehfähigkeiten. Daher eher pro Noto Sans.

... And to give all the opportunity to judge Noto Sans Display (a bit narrower than Noto Sans) that has been found as another candidate by JE and FE:

Who favors Noto Sans Display? (Feel free to unvote your thumbs-up/down above)

@frust45 @SpickerHZB @erxleb87 @lisa.klaffki @englae39 @konrad any updated opinion, after adding the "Noto Sans Display" variant?

So far, the "Noto Sans" is our favorite. I could well live with that.

Me too!

When I click the Noto Sans Display-Link, I get a Serifenschrift that looks really ugly... guess there's something wrong which might indicate a problem for other users as well?

Ok... need to check. Possibly something's wrong, it works on my machine (tm)...

What Lisa sees is the browsers replacement font for missing fonts. So the website is not properly delivering the font to the user. (I think Uwe figured that out already)

@lisa.klaffki there was an error, does it work better now for you? On some Linuxy systems, this font is auto-replaced by already pre-installed Noto Sans Display ... so one does not even recognize if there is an error...

Yes, now I get the right font. Thanks @erxleb87 for the explicit explanation, I was thinking "something in this area" but couldn't pinpoint it in my mind.

No fan of the noto sans display, though.

Entscheidung MVP 2022-04-14:

• Wir nehmen Noto Sans (ohne) Display
• @frust45 @erxleb87 @SpickerHZB testen nochmal technisch diesen Merge Request !447 (merged)

I vote to adopt the colours of the new Helmholtz CD wherever possible.

I reckon we need to clarify the HIFIS logo coloring at the same time.

For the font colors that should work quite well.

The Helmholtz.de website uses rgb(0, 40, 100) = #002864

Any drafts available? I think, someone showed a new version of the HIFIS logo.

I mean: If we change our color code, it has impact to a lot of HIFIS team members: e. g. the Figures in the TecDoc, https://aai.helmholtz.de/, https://helmholtz.cloud/services etc...

There was a draft of the new HIFIS logo, but with a lot of changes: The line was removed, the font changes, the threeliner turned into a two-liner.... and also the colors were modified a lot. I think that version of the logo was unacceptable.

HIFIS_Logo_RGB.pdf

I could live with most of that, but the color change is

I agree to Fredo. The light blue is to shocking to me. It's not light enough.
If you have a look at https://www.helmholtz.de/ landing page, they do not use the light blue anywhere. Instead, you can see some kind of light green (just as dubious as the light blue). And dark green is use for the claim. (bottom line of the page)

So, how about a monochrome HIFIS Logo as a kind of compromise? like https://events.hifis.net/

Um ehrlich zu sein, ist es eine grundsätzliche Überlegung, ob wir HIFIS Logo belassen, minimal anpassen oder uns dem neuen Helmholtz CD anschließen.

Ich habe nach den Argumenten für die neuen Farben gefragt, die Antwort bezog sich auf eine bessere Barrierefreiheit.

Maximal-Kompromiss: Schriftfarbe und Form Übernahme neues CD Wolke bleibt blau / grün Balken entfernen Text optional zwei / dreizeilig. Ich befürworte zwei Zeilen, wenn Platz ist.

Oder Entwicklung eines Minimal-Kompromiss: Schriftfarbe und Form bleiben Wolke bleibt blau / grün Balken entfernen Text optional zwei / dreizeilig. Ich befürworte zwei Zeilen, wenn Platz ist.

Aus meiner Sicht gewinnt das Logo an Modernität. Es wäre für mich gut vorstellbar, stufenweise zu ändern. D.h. wir gewinnen bereits mit der Minimalversion.

Was denkt Ihr?

Entscheidung VC 2022-04-13: Font Änderung sofort. Farbenänderung später im Rahmen des CD (ca. Juni).

mentioned in merge request !455 (closed)

mentioned in commit 2a055257

closed with merge request !447 (merged)

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